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Unicode 16 Is Out
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-13 08:28:16 UTC
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A few more language blocks, plus a few more emojis, and some “legacy
computing” symbols. Oh, and a bunch of extra Egyptian hieroglyphs.

“Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the pyramid...”

<http://blog.unicode.org/>
John McCue
2024-09-13 19:35:29 UTC
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <***@nz.invalid> wrote:
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and some legacy computing symbols.
I wonder what this means. Legacy to me means all these symbols
were 7-bit ASCII. So now we have multiple encodings for '<'
and '>' plus a whole host of others already represented in
ASCII ?

That is crazy, it is bad enough there are multiple symbols
for single-dashes and quotes.

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<http://blog.unicode.org/>
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-13 22:02:49 UTC
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Legacy to me means all these symbols were 7-bit ASCII.
ASCII was already included in Unicode from the beginning.
So now we have multiple encodings for '<' and '>' plus a
whole host of others already represented in ASCII ?
I don’t see any such in the new Legacy Computing block.
That is crazy, it is bad enough there are multiple symbols for
single-dashes and quotes.
Which ones do you think are not distinctly different?
John McCue
2024-09-14 21:35:10 UTC
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Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
That is crazy, it is bad enough there are multiple symbols for
single-dashes and quotes.
Which ones do you think are not distinctly different?
See:

https://jkorpela.fi/dashes.html

To me there is no need for multiple '-' characters.
One should be enough. I read it, but I will always
say '-' is all that is needed. Same goes for double
and single quotes :)
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-14 22:35:37 UTC
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Post by John McCue
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Which ones do you think are not distinctly different?
https://jkorpela.fi/dashes.html
They all have different representations/meanings, which is why they’re
there.
Post by John McCue
To me there is no need for multiple '-' characters.
Not good enough for typeset-quality text. Even if you want to confine
yourself to English text in Roman script, which a lot of people don’t.
Eli the Bearded
2024-09-20 21:42:24 UTC
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Post by John McCue
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and some legacy computing symbols.
I wonder what this means. Legacy to me means all these symbols
were 7-bit ASCII. So now we have multiple encodings for '<'
and '>' plus a whole host of others already represented in
ASCII ?
In this case it's some checkboard patterns outside of U+0020 to U+007F
"ASCII" range used by some legacy system.

https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/Unicode-16.0/U160-2400.pdf

U+2427, U+2428, and U+2429.

U+2427 I know was used as a delete cursor on Apple IIe systems, I don't
know about the others, but probably similar stories.

Elijah
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sponsor of U+2417 in that same code block
Richmond
2024-09-21 18:59:04 UTC
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Post by John McCue
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and some legacy computing symbols.
I wonder what this means. Legacy to me means all these symbols
were 7-bit ASCII. So now we have multiple encodings for '<'
and '>' plus a whole host of others already represented in
ASCII ?
That is crazy, it is bad enough there are multiple symbols
for single-dashes and quotes.
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<http://blog.unicode.org/>
The £ is obviously essential.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-22 02:05:03 UTC
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Post by Richmond
The £ is obviously essential.
€, ¢, ¥, ₩, ₦, ₢, ₹, ₺, ₯, ₮, ₽ ...

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